4iOS / iPadOS 14.5.1 + Private Address OFF = Frequent Disconnects
Hi all -- seeing this issue with several iOS / iPadOS devices (iPhone 12 Pro, iPhone 8, a few iPad Pros, iPad Air, iPod Touch): If the device is configured with the Private Address option turned OFF (so that I can use DHCP IP reservations), the device will frequently either disconnect from the WiFi completely, or it will flip over into the Private Address option (in which case my IP addresses get all out of whack). The only thing I can do when this happens is to completely forget the WiFi network on the device and then join again with the Private Address option turned off.
Anyone else seeing this? I have called Apple and of course they wanted to blame the Eero. I have restarted the Eero a few times and nothing solves the issue. Eero is on the latest version (6.3.0).
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I should add: NONE of my other non-Apple devices have this problem. It's only Apple devices.
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And now I am seeing a lot of Reddit threads where others have noticed that this issue has really gotten bad under Eero 6.3.0 -- so now I think this is Eero's fault. Get it fixed, folks!
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Just spoke to Eero technical support about this. Amazingly, they claim they have not heard of any disconnection issues with 6.3.0.
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Hello clayj ,
I would like to take a look at your network and help you troubleshoot this behavior. I will be sending you a message soon. Can you please follow the instructions in the message so we can get a ticket generated and start troubleshooting?
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James Hi James -- I have already called in and spoken with two different Anthonys about this issue. The one thing we have tried is to swap two of my Eero units around. We'll see if that helps -- but it does not explain why my aunt, who also has an Eero system, has also been having severe disconnection issues (to the point where I had to walk her through disconnecting Eero completely -- it was completely unreliable for her). The stability of wireless connections and the issue of Apple devices becoming disconnected (where manual action is required to rejoin the WiFi) is a really serious problem, to the point where I will not at this point recommend Eero to anyone.
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clayj I completely understand your frustration. I have an iPhone myself, and my eero network is on 6.3. I'm not experiencing those disconnections at all. This is why I was wanting to take a look at your network to see if I could identify any differences and find out what is actually happening that is causing this behavior on your network. Because I am unable to recreate it on my own network. Go ahead and monitor your network though. If the issue continues to happen please reach out to me using the instructions I messaged you.
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James Hi James -- well, the steps that the second Anthony asked me to try (swapping two Eeros around) have already failed -- two iPad Pros that were rejoined to the WiFi network less than three hours ago have already dropped offline, requiring manual rejoining.
Please try testing in your environment by doing the following:1. Set your iPhone to NOT use the Private Address option in the WiFi settings.
2. Set up an IP reservation for that iPhone in the Eero setup. The idea here is that the iPhone should be set to ALWAYS use the same IP address, not a random one.
3. See what happens.
As for myself, I am done troubleshooting on this end. I am just going to sit here and stew about it until Eero release an update that fixes this issue. You may want to talk to Apple to make sure that what THEY are doing and what YOU are doing are not conflicting with each other -- because if I have to choose between Apple and Eero, I will choose Apple.
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OK -- there is DEFINITELY a problem with reserved IP addresses in Eero 6.3.0. (Prove me wrong.) Twice today I have configured an IP reservation for my new HP notebook, and both times, within minutes, my WiFi stopped working and was completely unable to obtain an IP address on the WiFi network until I removed the reservation.
Get this fixed, Eero.
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We track all bugs and issues linked to Apple's iOS 14 update. And yeah, the iPhone 12 series comes with iOS 14 out of the box, waiting for Apple to release another update to address the problem. 03:07 pm (IST): A security update just went live for iOS and iPadOS bumping up the version to 14.5.1.
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I am experiencing the same issue with frequently getting disconnected. That is really annoying going from the office (3rd floor) to the kitchen (1st floor) and always being disconnected from the wifi.
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We'd be more than happy to check this out for you and offer some more in-depth assistance, thomas. niessen . Would you be able to email us at support@eero.com with the subject "Community Followup"? It's much easier for us to troubleshoot over email than here. (=
Kora | eero Community Team
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I am also experiencing the same issue with frequently getting disconnected on my apple devices
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I have 3 Eero WiFi 6 Pros in one home and 1 WiFi 5 Pro with 2 Beacons in another home using different broadband providers as well. The entire family is experiencing this problem with Apple devices - a mix of various iPads and iPhones all at iOS 14.5.1 and iPadOS 14.5.1. I have toggled the Private IP setting thinking the obvious- that random MAC addresses are going to be a problem- but that doesn't make sense if the devices have the correct SSID and key/password stored. These devices just get the most use. So I went ahead and then confirmed random disconnects with ASUS laptops, Sony smart TV and Roku devices. All Eeros on 6.3.0 - with the older Eero 5 Pro mesh only recently upgraded to 6.3.0 in the last few weeks, but enough to lead me to think the problems reside in the Eero.
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chevyv On 6.3.1 and confirming that this is still an issue on Eero 6 Pros. Will check on WiFi 5 later.
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I was seeing a lot of problems with 6.3.0 as well. No problems with 6.3.1, yet. Fingers crossed.
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speedmaster will update tonight and see how it goes
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Peterj0 Sure, good luck. I can't guarantee it's gone, but I haven't seen the problem since. Hoping I didn't jinx myself. :)
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I am still experiencing this after 6.3.1 update.
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Try enabling legacy mode on the WI-FI 6 routers. We have seen that fixes the issue with Apple devices.
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drutz I will try this today. It is random and only restarting the WiFi 6 Pro routers alleviates this problem in the short term. Power-cycling the Apple devices with WiFi 6 (802.11ax) does not resolve the issue. However, I have a WiFi 5 with 2 beacons which do not provide 802.11ax support and the problem persists. Switching to Legacy mode drops 802.11ax support, so I have doubts this is the root cause.
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I have a Playstation in one home which lags when it is wireless - in addition to Apple devices. It is not online for 20-3 seconds. I have two wireless HP Laserjets as well, one in each home with slightly noticeable but manageable lag.
I’m not sure who is at fault but I suspect vendors are not fully specification compliant.
I don’t have VPN issues. I’ve done Network Setting resets on Apple devices etc but yet the Playstation wireless lag gives me a clue that there is a problem negotiating *something* — bandwidth steering, MIMO, credentials, DHCP. No idea.
I bought the Eero to make life simple. This certainly stinks. If I have to break out a protocol analyzer I’ll probably move to another platform.
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I have noticed that I need to restart the entire network after 2-3 weeks, at both locations (one WiFi 5 and one WiFi 6) and all Apple smartphones and tablets are at version 14.6 at the moment. Eero firmwares at 6.3.1 on both.
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I’m having the same problem with my 2021 iPad Pro. It just started a few days ago. Nothing has been updated recently. I’m on iOS 14.6 and 6.3.1 on my Eero 6 network. All other Apple devices seem to be ok.
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Punzai aha! I’ve just noticed that 1Blocker had installed a VPN and that was bugging out. I deleted the VPN and now everything is working ok.
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Having the same issues on my current apple devices. Posting for updates
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Having the same issues on my current apple devices. Posting for updates
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Don't know if this helps, but for me ONLY my APPLE devices have this problem. I have turned off, in my Apple devices,"Private Addressing" and the problem goes away.......for a while. I can't seem to make my Apple device persistantly keep this setting off. If I restart it or there is an update, it comes back on, and in a short while after that, it disconnects my Ipad or phone from the EERO network connection. EERO needs to open a discussion with Apple to understand what's happening here. That is the words you need to tell us all- "We have contacted Apple and are trying to understand if there are any open issues we can enhance or resolve" that would be nice to hear, so far you have been really no help on this issue.
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Corby Mason My Sony PS4 and PS5 take a while to have a fully functioning access to the “internet” and the lag is a nuisance.
This could be a problem with their Secure+ functionality but with zero tools and no descriptive diagnostics of the internals it’s impossible to determine.
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Here’s a new twist.
I added my guest network and credentials. Guess what?
No problems with Apple devices. If get on the regular network and it drops out, my devices jump on the guest network.
This is an Eero problem.
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chevyv Interesting. Are you doing this with the Private Address option DISABLED on your Apple devices?
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clayj My iphone and iPads are all have private address disabled, however I know when my kids connect with private addresses. Since this is the default, my actual guests connect their iphones to the guest network with no problems.
All summer we've been streaming audio to a Sonos via Airplay (I personally use the Sonos app to fire and forget) and now we can tell when we get booted off the regular network and jump on the guest network because the audio cuts off but we still have internet access over WiFi. It's a nuisance for us because the Sonos is on the "wrong" network. -
clayj It's been two months since you originally posted. Do you still have this issue?
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chevyv It hasn't been gone long enough for me to declare it gone. I just updated to eeroOS 6.4.0 last week, and iOS / iPadOS 14.7.1 as soon as it came out. I'll call it solved when it hasn't happened for at least a month or two.
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Yes, my iPhone 11 Pro Max does this constantly. Whenever I see that AT&T Internet symbol up there, I know that they’re is a privacy issue with my network. This image is, of course, following my changing the privacy setting.
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A little late but I've been having this problem since last Spring. Eero didn't resolve it and in speaking to Apple many times, it doesn't look like this is an Apple problem.
My iPhone sporadically disconnects multiple times A DAY and the only thing I can do is either toggle Private Address off OR toggle it back on. It's the only way I can reconnect to the damn network. I've done extensive troubleshooting on my end and nothing has helped.
I'm on 6.4.0 and today, my work iPhone started disconnecting as well. I sent an email to Support. As someone who works remotely, I need a reliable connection and thus far, this does not seem to be it.
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Hello tardifa ,
Thank you for reaching out to us here and welcome to the Community! Some customers have had success disabling WPA3. Can you check that setting in your app? It is located in the discover tab -> eero LABs section where customers can test our features that are in beta for testing while we optimize the feature.
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tardifa disabling WPA3 fixed it for me
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Hey there clayj, did your issue resolve now that we're at version 6.5.0? I'm asking because I'm also experiencing the same issue. Guest network is the only light at the tunnel of my daily reboot regimen
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NeedHelpWithMyEero I just updated to 6.5.0 yesterday, so we will need to wait a while (a week or two) to see if there are any more disconnects here.
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clayj My name is Nicolas. I do have eero pro 6. the iphone, ipads disconnects from the eero network and then lose the password of the network systematically. All ios devices run latest firmware and the eero pro 6 have 6.5.0. I tried the WPA3 off , the private address on and off. And still the same issues since recent upgrade of the eero pro 6 to a previous firmware upgrade.
Tried to remove the network, remove all eeros, re add them one by one....All was woirking perfectly in the past. and now it is a nightmare with ios devices
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nicolas. cindric just very frustrating when we paid top dollars as they are the most expensive systems... Did eero recognize there is a problem with their firmwares? I am about to dump them and the brand and try to buy something else. I cannot waste my time reconnecting the appleTVs, iphones, ipads...
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clayj are you still experiencing the same issues as I do? I guess all people with ios who upgraded to the latest firmwares must face similar issues
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clayj so upsetting that I am going to buy some google wifi mesh today. If it works well, I will inform everyone here to switch as it seems that eero is ignoring the reality of what we are facing.
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nicolas. cindric Try to stop using Crapple devices.
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txgunlover nice joke. But do you have any idea to solve this? that would be more useful thank you
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nicolas. cindric have you turned off WPA3 ? This resolved the issue for me.
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Peterj0 Thanks Peter, I had it off and it is only apple ios devices. However, you have a different GUI, I dont see in my app the option about Optimize for conference and gaming
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Peterj0 it did not change anything about having the WPA3 turned off. unfortunately.
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Hello nicolas. cindric ,
Thank you for reaching out to us! I apologize that you are having difficulties with connectivity of your Apple products with your eero network. I would like to help you troubleshoot this behavior. I will send you a direct message shortly with directions on how to get an email to me so we can start working on this shortly.
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Hi there,
Just in case anyone at Eero is thinking this issue is fixed... it isn't. I'm on the latest software, have over 30 devices connected without problem to 4 Eero Pro 6s in the house, but the Apple devices ALL have problems - two iPads and two iPhone XRs. The Apple devices are all on the latest software, WPA3 is turned off (and always has been), address randomization is off on all 4 devices. The guest network is on - and that works just fine with Apple devices btw), there are two reserved IP addresses among the 30 devices which are working without issue.
Here's the symptom: generally I can get a 5GHz connection, but when I move between Eeros (by moving about the house), I get a message on the Apple Device which says something like "It looks like this 5GHz network is not connected to the internet. Would you like to switch to cellular data?".
Sometimes if I toggle wifi off on the device, then when it turns back on I get a connection. However when I look at which Eero it has connected to, it never seems to be the nearest (most logical) one. If the toggle doesn't work then forgetting the network does, or (sometimes) a reboot of the Eeros is required.
Staying on the guest network isn't an option as our Amazon Echo sound system is all on the 5GHz network - just like someone commented earlier re Sonos.
It has occurred to me that the Apple devices are really the only ones which roam about the house, so MAYBE there's a problem with other devices, but because they don't move, they don't have to hand off between Eeros? I do have a Windows 11 laptop which I use rarely, though I'm not conscious of problems with that.
The plain fact is that (for me) this expensive network, owned by one of the biggest names in tech, just doesn't work with the (second) most popular mobile devices in the world, and that ought to be a HUGE red flag for people at Eero and for anyone thinking of buying it or (like me) moving to an ISP where this is basically the only option. C'mon - let's have it fixed please!!!!
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Yep -- just happened to me again this morning. I was checking mail on my iPhone 12 Pro (iOS 15.5) and WiFi was definitely connected -- put it down for a few minutes -- picked it up and found that the WiFi was "Not Connected". Eero Pro 6 on latest firmware, iPhone configured NOT to use Private Address (I have an IP reservation set up in the Eero and I want all of my devices using specific IP addresses).
Eero: Get with Apple and GET THIS FIXED. I can tell you right now that if it comes down to using Eero OR Apple, you will not win -- and I will stop recommending Eero to anyone. -
It's July 18, 2022 and I'm still seeing this issue. Even with reserved IP addresses, it looks like the iPhone (12 Pro) "isn't on the network" even though it is. The HomePods work otherwise, every other device works fine, and the Apple Home app sees the HomePods, but they act like the iPhone isn't on the network. This really feels like Eero is punishing Apple users, which, if true, is illegal. Perhaps worth investigating, because this is ridiculous.
