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I am having issues with ssh (or scp) between OSX devices, only on my eero network

I have three macbook pro devices.  2008 model on 10.11.6, 2015 on 10.13.6, and new 2019 on 10.14.6.

While trying to setup the newest device I wanted to scp files from the 2015 to the 2019.  But I couldn't get scp or ssh to work on my home eero network not mater what I tried.

So I tried at work and they connect just fine.

More testing on home network finds that this seems to be an eero issue.  I have a second network at home (independent network with it's own external WAN IP).  It's on a zyxel router and connecting to that device works fine.  I can ssh between any of these devices.

Once I return them to the eero network they start failing again.

I also find they can't ping each other.

Each Mac can see the rest of my network.  I have several Raspberry Pi devices.  Each can be seen, each can be pinged and I can ssh to any of them from any of my OSX macbooks.  I can even ssh from one mac to the other if I go through any of the pi devices.   SSH to PI and then SSH any of the other macs.   No problem.  I can also ping the macbooks from any of the pi devices.

So for some reason my eero network is causing issues for peer to peer connections between OSX devices specifically. 

I can ssh from any pi to any other pi as well.  So it is a OSX specific issue.  

Actually it seems to be an apple specific issue.  Because I have a terminal app on my iphone which lets me ssh.  I can ssh into any pi, but once again I can NOT ssh into my macbooks from my iphone.

I have heard about issues with Apple devices on eero network but they mostly involve issues with connecting to a closer (stronger signal) eero or loss of connection when you roam.  I have this issue as well with my iphones, macbooks and ipads.   But a simple wifi off/wifi on fixes this issue.  I can't find a solution to fix my ability to ssh (or more specifically scp) from one macbook to another on an eero network.

Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Is there a solution?

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  • That’s a pretty strange issue. I just checked and I have no issue with pinging or SSH between macOS and/or iOS devices on my eero network.

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      • ron_g
      • ron_g
      • 2 mths ago
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      cMoo92 Isn't it strange.  I have contacted support.  No response yet.  I also reached out to folks over on reddit r/eero and an eero dev there helped me debug a bit.  She acknowledges that there is a layer in the system keeping track of what devices can communicate with the network in order to provide the profile support they have.  She suggested perhaps there is a bug at that layer or something similar.  So not as strange as it initially seems.

      I had a moment where the ssh started working again yesterday.  No changes made it just started working.  Then hours later I tried again and the problem is back.  I can join several other non-eero networks I have access to and the problem goes away so I am pretty sure the issue isn't with the machines themselves.

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      • ron_g
      • ron_g
      • 2 mths ago
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      cMoo92 Forgot to say thanks for testing that for me.  I was wondering if it worked for anyone else.  Good to know it can work.  Do you have Gen 1 or Gen 2 eero?  I have the older Gen1 system so wondering if that is a factor.

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    • ron_g my gateway eero is a gen 2, but I also have one beacon and two gen 1 units. One “disclaimer” is that I am part of the beta program, so I’m running a different eero OS version than you would be (unless you’re also in the beta). So it’s technically possibly the issue you’re experiencing isn’t present in the current beta.

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