Egress Hairpinning
I run a couple servers inside my network, mostly relying on a reverse-proxy to accept connections on TCP 443 and proxy the connections to the right internal server. I don't run separate internal v. external DNS. Instead, I have a more typical setup where I define an external DNS server in eero, then the eero includes its address as the DNS server in all DHCP addresses, and forwards the requests.
As a result, though, I can't access my server by [subdomain].[domain].com while *inside* my eero network. I have to instead use DNS shortnames. This is annoying for a number of reasons.
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I too would like to add my vote for NAT Loopback / NAT Hairpinning. Set everything up last night, love the speed and range, but disappointed to find out that I cannot access my IP Surveillance System using my external DDNS address. Would really like to keep these instead of switching back to OnHub which did support loopback. Hopefully the team can provide an update; is this at least on the roadmap?
Jeff C.
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Agreed. I'm in the same boat. Need this badly!
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Here is my request for this feature to be added! It's not preventing me from using the eero's but it's a PITA to work around it.
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I just got a set today and found out that it does not have NAT loop back feature . I need it for my security cameras. Is there a time frame for this to be implemented. I would like to keep the unit, but if the feature is not available anytime soon then I would go back with my old router.
Can some someone from eero advise?
Regards,
K
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Hi luandn —
Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, we don't have any updates to share regarding NAT loopback at this time. As soon as we have any updates, we will be sure to provide those details to this thread.
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This is a growing need for eero users. I have eeros installed at two homes and cant access (with knowing IP addresses or some internal DNS setup):
- QNAP backup (they have an external dns service)
- Crestron home automation (they have external dns) - yes Zuckerberg uses this in his Jarvis home
- Several DVR/NVR security camera configurations
- Slingbox
I use an external ddns service from NOIP.com for a single address for each of these devices - would like to use this noip address inside of my house.
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I must note, my eeros are arriving on Tuesday, and it sounds like they will immediately be returned. If I can not access them by putting in my public IP address or associated DynDNS hostname, I will not only be unable to use my 8 security cameras, but will also understand the mindset of eero. I am coming from Luma because of poor performance, but they at least support a fundamental understanding of networking.
Let's hope I have simply misunderstood, but this would affect 100% of security camera users, which of course are probably the bulk of your first round buyers and certainly your cheerleaders among your platform.
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Konolua You'll still be able to access your cameras from outside your network via your networks public IP/DynDNS name, and inside your network via private IP. The issue is that if you want to use the same DNS name to access your cameras externally or internally via the same DNS name, you need to run split external and internal DNS zones which is more complexity than many router makers expect for home networks.
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But on all routers I've tried (7+ in a year and a half), and on Luma this moment, I just leave my hostname (or public IP) in my camera app and I see my cameras on or off network. Only the Linksys EA9500 had a NAT Redirect feature I had to keep off for it to work. Every other router I've had or tried for the past 3+ years has worked out of the box with NAT loopbacks.
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Sounds like your app might be accounting for hairpinning not being available. Let us know how it works out once you do get your system set up.
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jalvani I too use an internal DNS server, but it is spotty. Eero should add one.
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Got the system set up and I am not impressed at all (TONS of WiFi drops...can not move through the house without a drop at least every few minutes, but that's a topic for a different thread). The issue here is while one app on Android (the fantastic TinyCam Pro) can support a home/away feature, the app I am forced to use on iOS does not. So, my wife, in-laws, and mother can not see the cameras properly when they are home (or away; depending on set up).
Also note, the cameras are only one part. I have a number of Python apps that I access via ports (about 8) and there is no way I will tolerate multiple bookmarks or typing in the private IP address. Lastly, my wife, who also uses a few Python apps, does not even know what an IP is, much less remember which is what and so forth.
I have to be honest, I am appalled that a $500 router does not have what Linksys (and every single other router) has had since 2004. I don't want to be harsh, but the time and effort to get this system set up, and now have to go through the process to return is so dis-heartening.
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I was an eero preorder customer and have overall loved the system, even if it's a little slim on features. But this is a must have feature for home automation, and is enough to move on to a competitor. Please, eero, address this fix quickly. It does not sound like a difficult addition and much simpler than the UI redesign work you keep pushing out.
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I second the previous posters. This is a feature that all my routers have supported over the years. I can't believe this premium product does not support NAT loopback.
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Jeff C. any word on when we might start to see states change on some of these longer standing requests? What's the internal process to go from review to committed?
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jalvani thanks for checking in!
Our team closely monitors feedback from our community, support tickets, and all other places where customers share their feedback with us. While we don't have any updates to share regarding specific features updates at this time, we're always working on improvements.
The development of TrueMesh was a big project, and as you could probably imagine, depended on many resources across the organization. Same goes for our recent app design refresh. While neither of these was a direct feature request from the community, they were important in continuing to allow eero to become a greater overall experience.
The process for building new features really depends on resources and how it fits into the current state of eero and other projects we have going on. We look forward to continuing to build great new features, as well as looking to develop many requests that have been featured here.
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Just throwing my $.02 in that I too would love to see NAT loopback supported in some way. I use a dynamic DNS service to allow me to connect to various apps on my computer from my phone when away from home. I hate not having that ability when I'm on my home wifi.
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This is what I received from them today:
Raoul (eero Customer Support)
Feb 14, 1:49 PM CST
Hello David, Currently customers would use a website interface or log directly into cameras, if using a device on the internal network. No Timeline for implementation of NAT-Loopback but will submit as a feature request.
Raoul @ eero
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Another frustrated user. A very basic feature, yet a $500 router won't support :(
Other than this, I would be a perfectly happy customer.
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I just picked up my Eero mesh system from Best Buy yesterday. After spending over an hour working through the app setting up all of my static IP addresses and port forwards, I was wondering why I could not access my Synology NAS and my IP cameras via DNS names when I came upon this thread. I can't believe that these devices cannot perform such a fundamental feature that every other router that I have ever used has supported. I have 13 more days to decide if I am going to keep it or if this is a deal breaker. It would be nice to have some sort of ETA from Eero regarding this much desired feature request.
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I just configured my Eero system, and found about this egregious limitation for such a premium product. I have a home server which requires me to use port forwarding.
My Apple Time Capsule allowed me to access my home server from either inside of outside my home network using my public IP address. I suspect it has to do with the "default host" setting.
And now I'm at a loss, not really knowing if I should return my new Eero system and look elsewhere for another WiFi system that does support NAT loopback.
Jeff C. it would be great if you could weigh in on whether or not this feature in planned to be implemented in the near future. Is this even in the roadmap?
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JoeKun I really can't believe they have not fixed this yet with all the backlash. Instead, they make their app look prettier.
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We're all advanced users, which I think may go unrealized. I know the "target" customer is novice and selecting "simple," but that is NOT who is buying the product.
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Since it doesn't seem that this is on Eero's immediate timeline to resolve and I was within my return policy, I was forced to return the product and purchase one from a competitor that does support it.
Content aside
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