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Separate SSIDs for 2.4 and 5.0 band

I work for an integration company and have installed eeros in at least 15 houses, but it seems I have to pull at least half of them.  Savant Pro handheld remotes require a stand alone 2.4 SSID.  When the SSID is a 2.4 and 5.0 mixed band, the remotes fall offline regularly.  Since most of my clients are Savant users, they cannot be eero users until this feature is added.

 

Thanks for the time.

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    • Pcheb76
    • 5 yrs ago
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    I have 5 eero gen2's, and had I known about all the issues with 2.4ghz only devices, I wouldn't of invested the kind of money I did with eero. I have 6 ip cameras that I can no longer use wirelessly because although there use both 2.4 and 5ghz, they can only use 2.4ghz to connect initially. Also had to return 4 wyze cams because they were not able to connect.  

    I has switched over to eero from orbi because of network stability. Now it seems like I left one issue for another ( maybe even worse) issue. By the way, the cameras had no issue connecting to the orbi system. 

    I tried eero support for help, and they blamed the cameras. Hate to lose money, but I may have to move on from eero and give orbi another try.

      • southbayandroid
      • 3 yrs ago
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      Drew  The problem is not the cameras.  The problem is there is no way to force you phone onto the 2.4ghz band so you can set up the cameras.  

      • Drew
      • 3 yrs ago
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      Thanks for sharing your concerns, southbayandroid – as it happens, our support team is able to temporarily disable 5GHz for you to set up devices if you're not having success with your device setup. Due to the fundamental nature of how we've designed the mesh, we still don't have any plans to implement a dedicated feature that splits these frequencies into separate SSIDs or otherwise, but we can offer this temporary measure to any customer that contacts us to request it. 

      Please give us a call when you have a few minutes set aside to configure those devices, and we'd be happy to make sure that your devices successfully join the network before reenabling full network functionality. We hope to hear from you soon!

      Kindly,
      Drew, eero Community Team

    • wifi_user
    • 5 yrs ago
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    Hi Eero peoples. I’ve read the thread. I’d like to tally a vote for the ability to lock a device to a particular band e.g. create a profile for 2.4 only and assign a device to that profile. 

    Here is my use case: I have 3 Apple Airport Express units I use for music distribution around my home and detached garage. The detached garage is at the edge of 5GHz coverage resulting in the connection using 802.11a 12 Mbps rate. At this rate the airtime used even to stream audio is substantial resulting in degraded performance for other devices while streaming music to the garage. 

    The ability to force the garage Airport Express unit to 2.4 GHz would A) likely improve the link quality and allow an MCS or two higher connection and B) move the airtime usage off the 5GHz band saving resources for my other devices. 

    Pretty sure a probe response blacklist is a feasible solution for a single SSID setup. 

    Also, for a premium priced product, the level of diagnostic info you give access too is lacking. The ability to see MCS per client (avg, median, a histogram!) or airtime usage per channel/radio, or uplink Rx power per client... anything PHY related would be helpful. And I know for a fact Brcm chipsets have APIs and/or SNMP and/or /proc/blah access to all that stuff, so... just expose it please?!?!

    Want to like your product, but it’s getting harder the longer you push back on 

    • Johnrmeyer
    • 4 yrs ago
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    Koogeek light doesn’t connect. Probably same issue as noted frequently in this thread. Sure would appreciate help. 

    • trymph
    • 4 yrs ago
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    I'm new to eero (w/limited and just enough IT experience to be dangerous) having gone all in thanks to my son also all in w/eero. Everything works fine for me EXCEPT Facetime on my old mac mini recently bought used a late 2009 model expressly to facetime on my Sony 40"TV with a logitech hard wired cam; nice to see long distance x-country my new grandson bigger than life<g> It seems there is a frequently commented known issue with dual banding on Apple with wifi (10.11.x OSx in my case). 

    Maybe too much info here but it seems I'll need a workaround as I cant assign a static frequency to my mac mini MAC ID which is stationary and <8' from a eero gen2; per this thread full of impressive pro's opinions. 

    So advise please:

    1. Resurrect my tplink and name the 2.4 or 5.0 band specific/different than my eero network; log my mac mini just to that tp-link UID?

    2. Just shut down the 2.4 incoming/output  from the Arris modem to Comcast? Plenty of coverage with household eero network <eg (2)gen2; (1) beacon & (1) gen1> with very nice 60%-70% of max  service via Comcast @250mbs capacity.

     

    Thanks in advance

    • trymph
    • 4 yrs ago
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    I've discovered there is an issue between able and wifi connections and found a solution for OS X 10.11.x 

    http://osxdaily.com/2015/10/16/fix-wi-fi-problems-mac-os-x-el-capitan/

     

    Explains new settings and DNS to apply for this issue. FYI

    • jschro
    • 4 yrs ago
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    Eero is one of the most expensive, if not THE most expensive, Wifi offering out there. Why are basic features such as multiple SSIDs (not just a single "guest network"), hiding SSIDs, enabling/disabling radios, QoS, basic firewall (and many other things I can't think of at the moment) not available? I would also expect the most expensive platform on the market to allow advanced configurations such as VLANs, URL Filtering etc. as well. I also think it's absolutely preposterous that this company has the gall to charge a separate subscription fee for basic security features that are included on most cheap routers.

    I reluctantly switched to a "wifi mesh" solution because we moved to a 3 story house and a single Wifi Router wasn't cutting it. When I researched all of the "wifi mesh" solutions out there, Eero seemed to be the best fit. Now that I know that Eero treats their customers like Apple Users (dumb everything down and do not allow any control whatsoever of your own equipment), I really wish I would have went with a different solution.

      • Drew
      • 4 yrs ago
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      Thanks so much for sharing your feedback, jschro, we absolutely appreciate your point of view and insights here. There's quite a lot of features mentioned here, so I'd like to take a minute to clarify a lot of the functionality of the eero and hopefully give you some insight into the product!

      To start with, I'm happy to confirm that eero already has a built-in firewall, as well as QoS in the form of the 802.1p standard priority system. We've also recently implemented our Smart Queue Management feature, which will help balance the bandwidth usage across your whole network and prevent any one device from siphoning speed to the detriment of other devices on the network.

      While many of the other features mentioned are currently under consideration (and in fact have their own threads elsewhere here in the Community), I'd also like to state that hidden SSID is a feature we specifically don't plan to implement – it doesn't have any security benefit to a residential user, and in the worst case can lead to user devices making themselves more vulnerable to malicious actors. 

      Finally, I'd like to just offer a little insight into our guiding philosophy, and our intentions with the eero system itself. You're absolutely right that compared to other router systems, the eero has noticeably less granularity, with fewer knobs and dials to play with in the advanced features. This is absolutely by design – we believe that creating a system that sets reasonable and useful defaults for a majority of residential users leads to a more stable, reliable and enjoyable WiFi experience. A lot of our efforts are also focused on behind-the-scenes work, which often doesn't come with a corresponding user-facing toggle – our core value is that eero is a product that continues to get better over time, and that's what we're committed to. 

      That said, we can absolutely understand that what our users have in mind for "getting better" is not going to be 100% aligned with everything we do, which is the entire point of this Community! We love to hear the things that we can improve on, and the things that our users want to see in the product – hearing what makes a feature valuable to a user is what's most useful to us. And for users who aren't having their needs met by eero, we have a solution for that as well in the form of bridge mode. You can have all the features and toggles you want on a router that meets your needs, and then bridge the eeros behind that router to make sure you're getting the sort of reliable, whole-home WiFi that a standalone router can't match.

      Thanks again so much for taking the time to share your thoughts with us, and let me be the first to welcome you to the Community! We're super glad to have you, and we eagerly await hearing any additional thoughts and feedback you have!

      Kindly,
      Drew, eero Community Team

    • jschro
    • 4 yrs ago
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    Hi Drew, thank you for the prompt response. I actually have an old TP-Link C5400 I'm going to connect to this with Eero in bridged mode and see how it works. I'm glad to hear that Eero strives to improve the product, but I wish a lot of these basic features were readily available now...especially at this price point.

    • Hooter78
    • 4 yrs ago
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    I have a Victor smart kill that troubleshoots to only 2.4 only as well and not auto connecting. Is there a simple way I can bridge anothe 2.4 router to eero and set up for this  note with limited IT knowledge....

    • cydoc
    • 4 yrs ago
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    I have an x10 Wi-Fi interface for smart home control that has to be connected via 2.4GHz. Is there a way to do that? I've read eero's arguments on enabling seamless transitions as one walks about the house, but how about a device that just sits in one place and must connect via 2.4GHz?

    • bitzerjdb
    • 4 yrs ago
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    Need the capability to turn off 5ghz to setup smart switches that only support 2.4.  They work fine once setup, but their Setup routine will not work if 5ghz is present.  Being able to set the Guest Network to 2.4 would be perfect!

      • txgunlover
      • 4 yrs ago
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      bitzerjdb You can call support, they have the ability to help you with that.

      • Tigerflakes
      • 4 yrs ago
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      txgunlover what’s the trick because they tell me they can only do this on the main network and not guest, and only for a temporary short period for troubleshooting. Any tips?

      • Tigerflakes
      • 4 yrs ago
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      bitzerjdb I want to do that same, were you able to set guest only to 2.4ghz?

      • txgunlover
      • 4 yrs ago
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      Tigerflakes They can only do it on the main network, and only temporarily to set up your device.  As an alternative, use an old phone or tablet that only supports 2.4ghz and you'll be able to set up your new device fine.

    • bitzerjdb
    • 4 yrs ago
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    The solutions provided by eero support were not what I was looking for.  The smart devices I use connect to the guest network to provide a degree of security.  The primary recommendation for support was to turn off all the eeros except the one the furthest away.  This might force your phone to use 2.4 instead of 5.  I will probably reuse one of my older access points and use it when I need to configure a new smart device.

    I don't understand why they are so resistant to allowing you to choose if you want 2.4, 5, or both on a given network.

      • cydoc
      • 4 yrs ago
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      bitzerjdb Eero support can temporarily turn off the 5 GHz manually and remotely if you talk to them live. This is how they helped me solve the 2.4GHz connection problem for a specific device. Please contact them to see if they can still do this.

      • wellcraft19
      • 4 yrs ago
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      cydoc Just so far fetched one has to contact eero support to TURN of a radio!!!

      Should be a basic feature. 5 GHz is not always better.
       

      • cydoc
      • 4 yrs ago
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      wellcraft19 True, but it was only a small one-time deal, and Eero support was very helpful. Of all the mesh systems I've tried (and I've wasted time and money with quite a few), Eero is the only one (once set up) that has been entirely glitch-free and hands-off over the last 1.5 years.

      • wellcraft19
      • 4 yrs ago
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      cydoc I have resorted to setting up a "dummy" network using a separate router/AP with the exact WiFi same credentials as the eero, connect devices to that network, and then simply shut it off and migrate to eero. Working work-around, but really should not be needed.

    • bitzerjdb
    • 4 yrs ago
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    Good to know they can do that, but, it is a bit inconvenient to have to jump through those hoops when you want to setup a new smart plug/bulb.   It's much easier to have a spare access point available.  They boot up in seconds and with the phone next to it, it will connect at 2.4. 

      • cydoc
      • 4 yrs ago
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      bitzerjdb Agree.

    • timyvr
    • 4 yrs ago
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    There also appears to be an issue with SkyBell having connection issues when a single SSID is used for both 2.4Gz and 5Gz bands.

      • wellcraft19
      • 4 yrs ago
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      timyvr yup, although most devices work well "up and running" on a combined or single SSID, but the SETUP is a PITA if not the 2.4 GHz network can be called out specifically.

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