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Latest Software 6.4.0

Anyone else noticing that wifi is disconnecting frequently after this recent software update to 6.4.0?

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    • walnutchen
    • 2 yrs ago
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    I've finally got fed up with our previous mesh router, so I upgraded to 3x Eero 6 routers for our 2800 sq ft house.  The router setup was simple and worked great for the first 2 days.  The speed was amazing and everything was fine.  For the last 2 days, we've had lots of issues with intermittent drop-out issues, see below:
    1) Apple TVs would "pause" while watching shows - for the first 2 days, we've not noticed any pauses.  Now it seems to pause quite often.  I ran a test on the internet, Eero showed no issues.  This seemed to have started happening after 6.4.0 update was done.

    2) I get "unstable connection" reports from Zoom on my PC during my conference calls.  This also seems to have started happening after 6.4.0.  

    3) Yesterday, I got a text from my son that the home internet is not working.  I went on the Eero app, and saw that the gateway is red.  So I clicked on it and ran internet speed test, and there was no issues, and then the whole system turned green and then all was fine.

    Please help!  I would like to get back the experience from the first 2 days of the Eero!

      • eero_support
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Hello walnutchen ,

      Thank you for reaching out to us on the Community! Lets start by making sure the eeros are placed optimally around your home. We recommend that eeros be 35-45ft away from any other eeros to start and you can move them closer if they are not getting good connections. After that is done, please read through the placement article to make sure your eeros are not placed in spots that will affect their WiFi signal and also make sure the eeros are placed in areas that will allow them to use their heatsink technology to keep themselves cool.

      https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/207897393-Where-should-I-place-my-eeros-#:~:text=For%20a%20quick%20and%20easy,eeros%20out%20around%20your%20home.

      After that, check the eero Labs features and disable them one at a time and test. This was we can rule out one of the beta features being the cause of this behavior.

      Give me an update when you can and we'll continue to troubleshoot.

    • walnutchen
    • 2 yrs ago
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    Hi Jason.  thanks for the suggestions.  It seems that the system is working better now.  Here's what I did:

    1) I made sure that Eeros are all sitting on the table and about 30 ft away at the most.

    2) I did go on Eero labs, and I enabled the local DNS caching feature, and since yesterday afternoon I have not experienced any issues at all with drops or unstable connections.  It seems to be working fast again.  I also have not yet received any notifications from Eero.  

    So far things seems to be good.  SHould I leave the Local DNS Caching feature on since it working for me?  is there any harm in leaving it on?

    thanks for your help.

    • BowFarm
    • 2 yrs ago
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    I was having problems yesterday morning, August 19. I have an eero pro 6 I use as my gateway and 4 other eero devices connected to it. For several hours, devices would not stay connected. They would disconnect from the gateway. Reconnect. Disconnect. The various wireless devices I have would bounce around from one eero to the other. For example my wireless printer which is in the same room as the gateway, would appear connected to an eero hundreds of feet away.

    I tried rebooting the gateway, but that did not solve the problem.

    I sent eero an email describing the problems since the 6.4.0 upgrade. I didn't hear back from them, but an hour later, everything settled down, and the eero mesh has been working perfectly, the way it worked before the 6.4.0 upgrade. I notice that the full upgrade number is 6.4.0-2092. I'm not sure if that is 6.4.0 version that was released on July 18 or a newer one.

    • mgilberties
    • 2 yrs ago
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    I’m having nothing but trouble since the update. From devices that are already connected struggling to. One thing down to devices connecting but getting shoddy speeds like 0.1Mbps. Rang several times and tried all the trouble shooting steps. It’s got so bad I’m considering switching back to my Virgin Media Hub and binning off the eero seen as it’s effectively useless since the firmware update. Is there a way to roll back the firmware or choose a particular version? It was perfect before the update. 

      • eero_support
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Hello mgilberties ,

      Thank you for reaching out to us on the Community regarding the behaviors you are experiencing on your eero network. I understand having a network that is not working correctly can be quite frustrating. I would like to take a look at your network and help you troubleshoot through this if you are willing. I'll send you a direct message with information on how to get an email to me. When you have time please reach out so I can help you troubleshoot.

    • chancegraham
    • 2 yrs ago
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    Hi James , I'm having the same problems that carbonfiberunderpants and others have described in this thread. Are there instructions posted anywhere that have helped folks resolve the issues?

      • eero_support
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Hello chancegraham ,

      Most of the time the cause of this behavior has been different in my experience. There are a few things you can try though I'll list some below here and if you're still experiencing this behavior after these tests, let me know and I'll get you some info on how we can go forward with testing.

      1) eero placement is one of the most common causes of issues. eeros placed in an area and working fine before might start having problems. This can be due to updates of devices surrounding the eeros, a new device in the home, or the update on the eeros themselves. But this is the first thing to check. Make sure all eeros are around 35-45ft away from any other eero. In some cases you might need to move the eeros closer, example: your walls are brick walls. Also review the placement article below as it goes over a lot of other tips around placement of eeros.

      https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/207897393-Where-should-I-place-my-eeros-#:~:text=For%20a%20quick%20and%20easy,eeros%20out%20around%20your%20home.

      2) Try power cycling the network for about 30 seconds.

      3) Try soft resetting the Gateway eero. https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/215473703-How-do-I-reset-my-eero-

      Once you've done those steps please let me know the results you experienced and we'll know how to proceed from there.

      • chancegraham
      • 2 yrs ago
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      James Thanks! Will do and report back.

      • BowFarm
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Hi chancegraham ,

      I don't know if this is related in anyway, but I was having similar problems. Part of my mesh is wired and I have a number of unmanaged switches on them. During the process of fiddling with my mesh, I did reboot some of the switches. It may be purely coincidental, but shortly after rebooting one of the switches, the terrible speeds I was having with some of my eero devices cleared up.

      • chancegraham
      • 2 yrs ago
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      James after running thru those steps, still having the intermittent dropouts. 

      • eero_support
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Hello chancegraham ,

      Alright. We'll need to dig a little deep and look at the network at this point. You can either give us a call and any of our support agents can help you or we can troubleshoot over email if you would like. I have shared a link below that has all the numbers you can call. I will be sending you a direct message with directions on how to get the request to me if you would like to troubleshoot over email.

      https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/207376426-How-do-I-contact-eero-support-

    • SkipSinclair
    • 2 yrs ago
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    Same problem here as well - even called the ISP (Spectrum), had them roll a tech TWICE to take a look, and even swapped cable modems.  Having the same problems regardless, seeing multiple times of day where I'm getting ~20% packet loss (continuous ping to Google 8.8.8.8 DNS) - additionally, one of my eero's (NOT the gateway unit) that is wired is only getting max 100Mpbs download on a gig switch (and a 480Mpbs connection).

      • eero_support
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Hello SkipSinclair ,

      Just wanted to check if you were able to do the testing listed below?

      1) eero placement is one of the most common causes of issues. eeros placed in an area and working fine before might start having problems. This can be due to updates of devices surrounding the eeros, a new device in the home, or the update on the eeros themselves. But this is the first thing to check. Make sure all eeros are around 35-45ft away from any other eero. In some cases you might need to move the eeros closer, example: your walls are brick walls. Also review the placement article below as it goes over a lot of other tips around placement of eeros.

      https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/207897393-Where-should-I-place-my-eeros-#:~:text=For%20a%20quick%20and%20easy,eeros%20out%20around%20your%20home.

      2) Try power cycling the network for about 30 seconds.

      3) Try soft resetting the Gateway eero. https://support.eero.com/hc/en-us/articles/215473703-How-do-I-reset-my-eero-

      Let me know if you are still experiencing this behavior after the testing so we can look into further troubleshooting.

      • SkipSinclair
      • 2 yrs ago
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      James - maybe you can shed some light here for me.  What, exactly, changed in the latest firmware that caused a fully-blessed and working three-node eero network to suddenly have "placement issues"?  My units have been in the same exact spots throughout the house for the last TWO YEARS without any real issues, and now, "all of a sudden", I have to figure out new placements?  And, may I add, the Eero app itself is continually telling me that my placement is in fact quite excellent.  So...?

      Here's the troubleshooting steps I've tried:

      1. had a tech come out to check the coax signal coming into the house.  He stated he couldn't make it any cleaner than it was at that time.  Had a packet test running for ~30 mins and didn't have a single dropped packet (without, obviously, going through any of the eeros in the house)
      2. replaced the cable modem (DOCSIS 3.0) with a brand-new DOCSIS 3.1 modem
      3. reset the eero network
      4. deleted and recreated the eero network
      5. moved one of the eeros to a different wired connection in the house, then proceeded to reset AND delete the network YET AGAIN

      No.  Change.  I still suffer from periods of time where all devices suffer packet loss (complete timeouts on a 10sec continuous ping to 8.8.8.8) for 15-20 minutes at a time.  Sporadic throughout the day, but nevertheless still occurring.

      Oh, and during the packet timeout periods?  Zero packet loss from an outside public IP address pinging my cable modem (I have a separate machine at work simultaneously pinging from the outside).

      Next?  Or are we finally willing to start troubleshooting this as a firmware issue?

      • eero_support
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Hello SkipSinclair ,

      Thank you for all the testing you've done. I'll send you a direct message with instructions on how to get an email to me directly so I can pull up your account and start digging a little deeper to find the cause of this behavior.

    • radavidescu
    • 2 yrs ago
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    Heh, came here to say it’s happening to me too, and what do you know, page wouldn’t load since I was experiencing this very issue while trying to post about it :)

    here’s another +1 on this and you’re all not alone.

    on a single eero 6 (non pro) losing internet once or twice a day on all devices. Waiting a minute or so fixes it silently, without ever actually losing wifi connectivity (but websites don’t resolve for a bit until they magically do). 
    already contacted support via email, so guess we’ll see if there’s any movement soon.

    cheers!

      • radavidescu
      • 2 yrs ago
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      radavidescu Update: after a little back and forth with eero support which was taking too long, i decided to give the old trusty Airport Extreme another shot. placed it in the same spot as the eero and it's been rock solid every since. no drops and all my home automation is not timing out. maybe i'll give the eero another go once a new firmware is around, but for now i can't afford the downtime. I did try the whole 'enable dns caching' thing and it seemed to make it a tad more stable, but still not very usable. Hope you all had better luck!

      cheers!

      • mgilberties
      • 2 yrs ago
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      radavidescu Amen! 🙌 I'm exactly the same, I can't afford the time spent on the phone with support unplugging, resetting and doing it all over again for the same outcome. I think it's madness that this breaking change can't be rolled back. I'm close to reverting back to the cr*ppy Virgin Media Hub because every single day, the speeds or loss of connectivity push me one step closer to taking a hammer to the eero.

    • williamwu1985
    • 2 yrs ago
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    Hi, for those of you who have some device can not connect to eero after firmware 6.4, but some device can still work. This problem can try to enable ipv6 setting under network setting. At least that work for me.

      • jbeauman
      • 2 yrs ago
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      williamwu1985 You are my hero! Eero tech support had me change some things, and then I tried some things. Nothing worked until I tried your solution. Thank you!!

    • SkipSinclair
    • 2 yrs ago
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    For those still tuning in to this thread:

    Two weeks later, zero contact from Eero support on this issue.  I found a resolution, but you really aren't gonna like it...

    Post-6.4, the Eeros just cannot handle as much traffic as they could Pre-6.4.  I don't know whether it's heat related (doubtful, as I had a fan pointed directly at the gateway Eero with zero change), a buffer overflow, additional features taking up too much memory, etc etc etc... but I did in fact find a solution that worked for me.  

    I fired up a pfSense firewall as the primary gateway, and relegated the Eeros to ONLY access point (AP) duties by throwing them in bridge mode.  Haven't had hardly a dropped packet since.  The Eeros apparently can't handle the traffic in my house; only by essentially rerouting all of the wired traffic and stripping off all of the "features" the Eeros have in gateway mode can they reliably operate.  But, now the wifi traffic is great, and the wired traffic is great, and I'm at least getting SOME of the $300 wifi-5 features that I paid for.

    So, if you have the means, reduce the traffic going through the Eeros by dropping them into bridge mode and come up with your own firewall/gateway.  The extra stress of having the eeros dole out IP addresses, manage DNS caching, reservations, stateless firewall, UPnP... they just can't handle it.

    They do make a pretty nice access point, though.

    PS - test it for yourself, drop a house-full of devices down to just one or two, and it works a treat!  Nary a dropped packet, stable as hell.

      • mgilberties
      • 2 yrs ago
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      SkipSinclair I also found a permanent solution 😄

      • eero_support
      • 2 yrs ago
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      Hello SkipSinclair ,

      Thank you for reaching back out to us and letting me know that you have not received a response from us in a reasonable amount of time. I will be sending you a direct message in a few minutes with some questions so I can locate your account, look into why you have not received a response, and look into other troubleshooting options for you as well.

    • map55555
    • 2 yrs ago
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    Having the same problems as others on this thread -- frequent disconnects, dropped packets and trouble loading pages -- ever since the new software release.  System was working great for over a year and then -- boom -- frequent problems.  I've tried everything -- making sure my modem is in bridge mode, restarting the eeros, power cycling modems and eeros, etc.  Very frustrating to see a working product fall apart like this.  Hoping that a software update is coming soon??

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